forum.robsoft.nu. Should have my 4th 243 barrel tomorrow, 28” 1:7 shooting 115’s at 3150 or 105’s at 3250. The 6mm Creedmoor case holds about four grains less water than the .243 case, but because it is shorter, long VLD (very low drag) match bullets can be seated farther out in the case and still work through an AR-10 magazine. 2. Ett forum där vi diskuterar Handladdning, Jakt, Skytte och Vapen. The 6mm Creedmoor also includes a SAAMI maximum pressure of 62,000 psi to the .243’s 60,000 psi, while its 30-degree shoulder lends the cartridge remarkable efficiency – commonly translating into low extreme velocity spreads and minimal brass flow. ... (.260 Rem) and David Tubb (6XC), so you can see the .243 is a top performer at long distances. The 243 is a flat-out better round with the 115 DTACs than the 6XC. They are hard on barrels but who cares. The third group of .24/6mm cartridges are the very short (approximately .223 length) target and varmint cartridges. * See Disclaimer below.Testing real world and actual data from my rifles. They both show a neck length that's very close to .250", but you will find that it often comes out a little shorter than that. Reloading data for 6xC Norma. The 6XC has been a popular choice among top PRS shooters since the first couple years they started having these kinds of matches. The 6XC is really nothing but a necked up 22-250, or a necked down .250 Savage case. After fire-forming, Mike and John can reload this case using normal, unmodified 6BR neck-sizing and seater dies. Re: 6XC vs. 6mm Creedmoor. The 243 uses a few grains more powder, not enough to make much of a difference. 6.5 Grendel | 260 Rem | 6.5×55 | 6.5-284. boring The 243 is great for ease of ammo. Skip to content olly alexander mum. … I love 243. With 115’s I’ve taken it to a mile when conditions were great. Performance Summary. Comparing the Velocity and Accuracy difference between the 243 Win. Yew Tree Fieldsports, samdk, ejg and 1 other person 308tikka Well-Known Member Supporter Oct 25, 2021 #3 The only important bits are - what projectile can be fired accurately and repeatedly in the calibre chosen..? word document slow to save; 243 loads with superformance powder. 1990 nc state basketball roster. 6mm/243 .224 is an ideal size. Jaktmässigt är prestandan inte långt ifrån .243 Win som ofta är lite känslig och kräver mycket experimenterande för att skjuta bra, särskilt vid handladdning kan .243 Win vara retsam. 6mm Creedmoor vs. 243 Win An in-depth look at the 243 Win vs. 6mm Creedmoor rifle cartridges to see which ammo option works best. I'm considering changing the .243 to the AI version. Shooter's Guide for .243 Winchester and 6mm .243 Win shooting, reloading, and accuracy. SHARE. 6XC: Shorter .243, sim 6GT 6 Creed: .243 performance with longer bullets in AICS mag boxes, some factory ammo.243: Factory ammo.243 AI: Faster .243 6mm Rem: Long .243, faster 6 SST: Magnum! I have found that velocities attainable with the 6XC are equivalent to those attainable using .243 Winchester. Barrel life is much better than .243 Winchester due to the fact that the 6XC has about 7 grains less powder capacity. It is touted as being one of the most accurate long-range 6 mm rounds in the world that is designed for repeating rifles. 270 WSM 280 Rem. old The 6 creed was designed for PRS competition, and running bullets fast. A .243 Win. Bullet: Shilen Bullets 65 gr: Bullet weight: ... Norma Rimfire V-MAX® Norma Subsonic 22 Norma ECO Show all ... 243 Win. A .223 Rem. dropmdead said: 6xc for the efficient cartridge that it is, and it's proven accuracy in competition etc. 6 Creedmoor (6.5 Creedmoor necked down to accept 6mm bullets) has knocked 6XC on the head, very firmly. Preface. and the ill-fated .243 WSSM — as well as competition-centric rounds like the 6XC and the 6x47 Lapua. On July 20, 2008 shooting his 6XC at the Phoenix Rod & Gun Club, the author confirmed that RL17 can deliver real-world, match-winning accuracy. Compared to a .243 Winchester, the .243 BR-K’s body length is about .006″ longer, and the shoulder is about .0055″ wider. Based on this data, the 6mm Creedmoor averages about 150 fps faster MV than the .243 Winchester with 95-100 grain hunting bullets. forum.robsoft.nu. 6 Creed definitely has more capacity which equates to a little more speed. 6XC is .243 for posers. With the 115gr DTAC, the 6XC is now a viable long-range cartridge with ballistics that rival a 6.5-284 shooting a 142gr SMK at 2950 fps. Ok my take for what it’s worth a brand shinny new 6XC custom rifle will out shot a 60 year old worn out factory 243. whas 840 radio listen live. Now there are multiple people shooting multiple different variants of 6mm cal that are hitting 3400 fps and getting between 12-2500 rounds of accurate barrel life. Prestige 660R-6xC Series User’s Guide. All of these except the (fat) short action .243 WSSM and 6mm-284 wildcat are standard length cartridges designed to function in rifles with standard (.30-06) length actions. If you want a factory rifle and factory rifle the 6XC 6Cred etc will offer an advantage S stevenedwards The .243 has a tiny bit longer case than the 7mm-08, which has a slightly longer case than the .308 (2.045″ vs 2.035″ vs 2.015″), but the .308 has the greatest overall length by a very small margin. The Brass is … Note: Register your product online to receive e-mail notices of firmware upgrades and information at www.zyxel.com for global products, or at www.us.zyxel.com for North American products. The Hornady Precision Hunter load drives a 103-grain ELD-X to a muzzle velocity of 3050 fps, putting the 6mm Creedmoor essentially on par with the .243 Winchester, but it’s the ability to properly seat the longer bullets with the best ballistic coefficients that gives the 6mm Creedmoor the edge out beyond 500 yards. WTF? Att jämföra XC rakt av med 243 som man … You will want to use a 6mm expander mandrel along with sizing wax inside the necks. This means that a Cross-course shooter can now use one rifle and one cartridge for all events. If you are doing 300-500 cases, that would get old. I shot a 260 and another rifle in 6.5x, and noticed no difference in recoil. the 6XC and the .243 both have similar issues, and the improved versions only marginally help fix the issues. Email. 6XC:n togs fram för tävlingskyttar, men inte för dem som skjuter snabbt, utan även för långsamt skytte. 284 Win | 7mm SAUM | 7mm WSM | 308 Win | 300 WSM | 30-06 | 300 WM | 338 LM. ADDED: 1-2-2021.....Thank you, guys, for the comments. We have the Brass in stock along with Dies. If both rifles are built to the same standard and twist barrel and you reload to good standard you’ll not notice a difference. Due to the 243's larger powder capacity, one must use slower burning powders to get the higher velocities it is capable of, when compared to those used in the 6XC. Home; Tours; About Us; Contact & Booking; Local Info; Map; Menu In fact, in terms of Wind Drift, a .243 running 115s at 3150 fps beats both the .260 Rem (2850 fps) and the 6.5-284 (2950 fps) running 142 MatchKings. Do NOT use the … The design and function of the AR-15 platform perfectly offers the mechanical solution which the .243 WSSM lacked in a bolt action. The 6mm Creedmoor vs .243 is a very interesting comparison. Ett forum där vi diskuterar Handladdning, Jakt, Skytte och Vapen. Plus, it had a longer neck. Shooting a 500-yard prone High Power match on the NRA MR65 target, using iron sights, German Salazar posted a very impressive 600-39X score. From ground hogs to black bear it’s been my go 2 for years. The Remington round had a slight ballistic edge over the .243 Win., and a brief war for 6mm dominance ensued, but the .243 prevailed. Few challengers have taken on the .243 since then: the speedy .240 Wby. and the ill-fated .243 WSSM — as well as competition-centric rounds like the 6XC and the 6x47 Lapua. 204 Ruger | 221 Fireball | 222 Rem | 223 Rem | 22 PPC | 22-250. Pipslitaget enligt uttalande från svenska landslaget är ungefär som för 6BR när tunga kulor. This past year there were 3 shooters using a 6XC in the top 25 in the PRS, and 4 in the top 25 in the NRL. can push a 75-grain projectile about 3,300 feet per second at the muzzle and achieves about 1,800 foot-pounds of energy. Twitter. Indeed, the .308 Winchester is the poster child for the short-action rifle. Om det är 6XC som avses - då blir det ganska trivialt - fast inte helt. To order DTAC 115gr bullets or 6XC brass, contact Superior Shooting Systems: (806) 323-9488. Another thing, the Berger manual has some cartridge max loads pretty darned slow. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is … 6mm BR | 6BRX | 6 Dasher | 6 PPC | 6×47 SM | 6XC | 243 Win | 243 AI | 243 WSSM | 6mm Rem. Not a lot of difference. Barrels are like tires. 6XC, just a little smaller capacity than the two above. ... For all practical purposes what goes down with wildcat of similar chambering will also go down with a 243. En BR är däremot mera småviltkaliber och en PPC likaså. Facebook. 30-06 Spring. Skip to content hipsters or mid life crisis guys My money is on either 243 or 6xc... 22 Creedmoor Fixed 6 XC-hylsan har stor tändhatt och kalibern en räffelstigning med ett varv på åtta tum. Few challengers have taken on the .243 since then: the speedy .240 Wby. and the ill-fated .243 WSSM — as well as competition-centric rounds like the 6XC and the 6x47 Lapua. But the .243 Win. has largely enjoyed being the king of 6mm mountain. Go with the 243...plenty of brass and die options. Du förlorar helt känslan av småviltstudsare med en 6XC utan ljuddämpare. The 6mm Creed is anout .030 longer than the 6XC. Factory brass is available from Norma and Peterson. The biggest difference I can see is that factory 243's are usually sold with a 9 or 10 twist and some of the other hot rods have a quicker twist for heavier bullets. Killed a ton of critters with it. Biggest thing is the 6 Creed far better selection of good quality brass and it's available EVERYWHERE if you're willing to neck it down from 6.5 Creed. 6.5x used about 3 grains less powder. The 6XC is a CIP standardized case. It’s clearly a very capable round in the hands of a good shooter. This seems strange, because the .243 case actually has about 4 grains greater capacity, which … It shows the 243 with 60 grain bullets going like 3500 fps. He called his original wildcat the 6mmX (for the X-ring on a High Power target) – essentially the .243 Winchester shortened by .145 inch, resulting in room to spare in a 2.84-inch magazine even when loaded with long, high-BC bullets. Using the 4-to-1 case capacity formula, the 6XC is capable of about 100 fps less than the .243 when using bullets of around 100 grains, with the same barrel length and same pressure. May 24, 2022. WARNING: Case Diagrams are provided for illustration purposes only. My understanding is one of the reasons David Tubb created the 6XC is to get away from the dreaded donut some found after sizing 243 win a few times. The 6mm XC was initially developed specifically for NRA High Power match shooting by 11-time NRA High Power National Champion David Tubb. Skip to content. Det är flera som skrivit om 6cx, men jag har inte hittat specifikation på hur den patronen ser ut - hoppas det inte bara är slapphänt tangentbordshantering. Re: 6xc vs 243win Post by MatsT » 02 Feb 2018, 22:19 Om vi ska slänga in nåt nyttigt i diskussionen 243 och 6xc så säger jag bröstvinkeln på något konstigt sätt som inte jag vet något om så har hylsor med bröstvinkel som xc bättre precision . When you are finished applying wax and sizing you then have to remove all the wax from inside the neck. Reply badthirtyone Jud96 Well-Known Member Joined Jun 30, 2013 Messages 3,229 Granted I mostly loaded varmint bullets which probably didn't get close to a donut. All three cartridge are used in short-action rifles. by contrast achieves only about 1,400 foot-pounds of energy by throwing a 75-grain projectile 2,900 fps. You can choose to neck up 22-250 brass for a 6-250.